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| Sage |
Shredder, Thanks for the comments on progression. I have read Dahl, and will now order Thompson. Been playing only a few months. I experimented leaving the table after 4 losses, but found I was not getting to play very long at anyone table. Moving it up to 5 losses seems to help a little. (I play at an Indian Casion with only a few tables.)How are you doing with the length of play at one table with a 4 stop loss? |
2003-05-26 14:10:26 |
| ray ochoa |
how many deck of cards are used to deal blackjack in Laughlin Nv
in most of the casinos |
2003-05-26 13:42:08 |
| Grifter |
Steve....Nice report. 'KO' is fine to use in conjunction with a positive progression. E-mail me and I will give you the most important indices. Too much to post here....grifter21@cox.net |
2003-05-26 12:51:12 |
| steve |
Coug Fan, Since the progression bettor depends on streaks, can you give us an idea of what the simulations say are the frequencies of the various streaks, say up to 5 or 6 wins in a row. Is there anyway to figure in how many of those streaks what the frequency of split or double down hands will be, since in the games have really helped me to come out winners it was mid to upper progression betting levels combined with splits and doubles. |
2003-05-26 10:25:29 |
| steve |
Thanks again to Grifter and Midnite for more common sense information to those of us trying to get ahold of this game. I did ok in Shreveport this weekend although it was way too crowded. I walked away winners even though I lost more BJ games than I won, just stuck to my management and prgression, with BS, and took more money out on the fewer win games than I gave in the multiple lose games. Also spent time backcounting tables using KO count, starting to think it can be done. I can't see why a begginer can't combine a progression betting system with a count to help with indices like insurance or maybe when to come off a progression early. Would this be too much work for too little gain? The KO seems to be a great count for this because you don't have to worry about how many decks have been played. What would be the 4 or 5 most important indices for a plan like this? |
2003-05-26 10:19:25 |
| shredder |
While I'm not sld007, from past posts I think he stays at $150 on his $50 progression untill a loss, or $30 on the $10 one untill a loss then its back to square one. I've been having some success with a Dahl/Thompson blend 20,20,30,45,60 then back to 20 unless there is a loss then back to 20. I've only been playing this winter and started with a $5 progrssion and now I'm doing the 15 or 20 progression and am up $1505 since Jan. this year and have won 58%, average loss 98.75, average win 271.42. This was mainly due to playing basic stratgy, progession, betting, leaving a shoe after 4 losses, money manament, ect. Most of these things I got from this board and Dahl and Thompson's books. Hope you have simular success. For more answers search the archives........Shredder |
2003-05-26 06:54:50 |
| Sage |
sld007, what is the progression of a "modified Dahl" I have just read his book, He has 10-10-15-15-20-20-30-30 etc. How do yu modify it? |
2003-05-25 16:19:19 |
| Midnite |
Michigan Dave - With the hand you described, you are between a rock and a hard place. Stand with a stiff, against the dealers seven and you will lose three out of four hands. As for the acronyms, others may also wonder what they mean. DAS= Double After Split DA= Double Any (first two cards) LS= Late Surrender RSA= ReSplit Aces |
2003-05-25 06:51:28 |
| why |
why why why???????????? |
2003-05-25 06:29:03 |
| sld007 |
ps - The ideal number of hands? If you could live to play millions of hands that would truly be ideal. Failing that, I chalk it up to a lifelong experience which has taught me that in the long run a modified Dahl progression allows me to win most of the time with as little mental headaches as possible. Your "belief" should be based upon your individual experience--whatever floats your boat, brother! |
2003-05-24 22:30:28 |
| ps |
correction on last post...6 deck shoe |
2003-05-24 12:34:18 |
| I am dumb |
Do two wong's make a wright? and is -6 > or < +4? need help with this one. |
2003-05-24 11:00:10 |
| ps |
I home test different betting progressions using four decks(like one of the casinos I go to) What is the ideal amount of simulated hands & sessions should I complete before believing in the results? |
2003-05-24 09:35:19 |
| Michigan Dave |
Midnite Gambler-If this deviation is correct, then would this one be correct also? The dealer has a seven and I have a 2,3. I draw a 3,2,2,4. What is the Play? I would hit. One more question. Where can I get a list of acronyms on BJ so I can figure out what you guys are talking about. Thanks. |
2003-05-24 04:30:13 |
| Midnite |
My take on counting- It is another weapon in your arsenal of weapons, to beat the BJ game. Is it worth it for the casual player, No. It is very draining and can take all of the fun out of the game. However the more weapons you have in your arsenal, the better off you are. Your first should be, that you have basic strategy down cold. Your second is when to deviate from basic strategy. An example, you have 5-5, the dealer has a face, you hit and draw a 6. Basic strategy says to hit a 16 against the face, but you are holding two of the cards you need to make a 21. You have a Three card 16. Your best chance to win \"this\" hand is to stand and hope the dealer has to draw and busts. This is such a close call (hitting a 16 against the dealers face card) that you will only win \"one\" more hand out of 200, than if you stand. There are \"Lots more\" and all without counting. To some people counting comes easy and there are some people that just flat, can\'t do it. Only you will know, if it is right for you..... |
2003-05-23 15:39:47 |
| Coug Fan |
Pizzaman - Its no contest. The SD game that pays 6:5 is worse than any number of decks paying 3:2. The house edge on a 6:5 single deck game is around 2% compared with 0.2% for the typical SD game with the correct BJ payout and under 1% for almost any common rule set on a 6 or 8 deck game.
You are better off playing craps that 6:5 Single Deck. It is a complete rip-off for any level of Blackjack player. |
2003-05-23 15:07:10 |
| Coug Fan |
SLD: We\'ll have to agree to disagree on the effectiveness of using a progression system. Walter T admits that he has no idea why his progression seems to work. My opinion (which is shared by many) is that his progression seems to work because he is using a miniscule sample size. When I simulate counting systems, I use a sample size of 10 billion hands at a minimum. 5 thousand hands is completely insignificant. That being said, any system could show positive results over the short term and may work for the occasional gambler. Just understand that these systems are alternating the frequency and size of expected winning and losing sessions and are not alternating the long-term expectation. |
2003-05-23 15:03:39 |
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