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| BugHouseMASTER |
Something's wrong with hitorstand.net because everytime you get a hard 12 and EITHER hit or stand it counts it wrong... what's up with that?! Another thing, why does Basic strategy say to HIT on 12 against a dealer's 2 or 3? Shouldn't you STAND on ANYTHING from 12-16 and NOT just 13-16 when the dealer is showing 2-6?! Many if not all the Basic Blackjack Strategies are WRONG... right? |
2003-05-05 22:02:42 |
| Kevco |
I don't know if this web site has been mentioned, but bjmath.com has been helpful to me. Good playing to all. |
2003-05-05 17:57:32 |
| sld007 |
gunpowder - I have been playing BJ for over 20 years and have had the same intrepidations about your definition of long vs. short term. Therefore, I don't judge my "sessions" in terms of time; rather I judge them by when I walk away from the table using the following formula. Whatever I buy in for (usually 500 - 1000), I stay until I lose it or double it. I play $25 - $50/ hand and my "sessions" can last anywhere from 8 minutes all the way up to 3 days. Now I have not always totally adhered to this rule; however the concept is to know when to walk away, not just when your "session" should be over. In the long run (over many years) all things pretty much even out anyway, that is 50% of the hands go back and forth, 25% of the time you lose 2 or more in a row and 25 % of the time you win two or more in a row, which is why I like Dahl's progression of only increasing your bet as you win and flat betting as you lose. Over time you should see more winning "sessions" than losing ones. |
2003-05-05 16:03:51 |
| Midnite |
gunpowder-I may not be right, but I will take a shot at it. Think of long term as, all the BJ hands you will ever play, in your lifetime. Short term is the sessions inbetween. In any one session, anything can happen. You can win big or get wiped out. A player "just playing" and not even using BS, would have NO chance of a long term win. He will win some sessions, but the losing sessions will out number, the winning ones. Yes, you could say it is all just one big session, broken down by a lot of smaller sessions. Whether you play 15 hands or 350 hands, will not make any difference to the long run, but it can make a difference to the bankroll.... Due to the varance of the game, I like the guy's chances better, that is playing 350 hands. |
2003-05-05 14:30:33 |
| Gunpowder |
I'm having a hard time understanding the whole concept of long-term/short-term. Does this mean that each session (no matter whether same day or week later) at a blackjack table is just one big session but just split up, basically each session is a continuation of the last and in the long run if you play long enough you will lose (considering u play straight basic strayegy w/ no card counting). It just confuses me because I feel like each session is independent of any other session with no memory of what happened in previous plays.
Say that everytime I go to the casino I only play 15 hands, isn't that short term? And everyone says that in the short term a player can win but it is in the long run in which a player with always lose(unless card counting). Therefore, aren't I always playing short term by playing only 15 hands a day.
And what exactly is long term. I mean the basic strategy was developed through simulating billions of hands, I will never play a billion hands, so doesnt the strategy change a little bit. Because a 15 hands a day player and a 350 hands a day player have different definitions of long term. Does this also mean that because one is playing 350 hands a day he will reach the "long term" (and his inevitable failure) sooner than the person playing 15 hands a day.
Im not sure if any of this is valid, I am a little confused about this topic and would appreciate it if somebody could clear it up for me. Thank You. |
2003-05-05 13:29:47 |
| adam n. subtractum |
The state where I normally play no longer offers blackjack. If anyone is interested, I have a Casey blackjack computer for sale. If you don't know, this is a computer that you wear under your clothing that keeps track of the cards being played and gives you a correct playing decision. It also tells you how much to bet.
If anyone is interested, you can e-mail at ar1919@collegeclub.com |
2003-05-05 11:26:52 |
| wharrisIU1 |
Just got back from a Mexican Riveria cruise on RCI.
Five BJ tables with good rules except for dealers hit soft 17's. Practiced Bas/Strat and lost a total of 50.00 for the week. The thing most remembered was twice I had 20 and because of the hit soft 17 rule, the dealer drew to 21 both times and tied one other hand of 20. Blackjack paid 3/2. |
2003-05-04 19:02:30 |
| Phil G. |
Midnite - Thanks for the info. Unfortunately, the novice player is likely to go for the CSM tables and will accept the 6/5 payoff's, and these are the people the casinos make their money from. My win avg. is about 80% so the casinos will not be sorry to see me play elsewhere. Hopefully, the competition for players will get stronger and the casinos will have to ease up on the rules. |
2003-05-04 15:00:42 |
| Midnite |
Phil-The true disadvantage to a CSM, is to the counter. No advantage, but as you are not going to be counting cards, it should have little effect on your play. However, there may be a time when you would like to try counting cards. If we, as players refuse to play at tables with CSM's and 6/5 pay offs on a BJ, the more likely they are to get rid of them. Not likely, but we can hope..... |
2003-05-04 14:00:24 |
| Phil G. |
Midnite - I believe the Mirage still pays 3 to 2 on BJ and about half of their tables do not have the CSM's. My question to you is, if a player does not count cards what is the disadvantage of a CSM? Has there been a study done to see what advantage/disadvantage a player has? |
2003-05-04 11:22:03 |
| Midnite |
billy-There are Thousands of BJ tables in Vegas. To set even a rough estimate, you would need to visit them all. Big job. Vegas games have gone downhill, as now they have come up with a 6/5 payoff for a BJ (in some places) along with the CSM's. I think most players can find as good as or better games, closer to home. But there is no place like Vegas. You can still find good games there, but you know have to look for them. |
2003-05-04 09:09:23 |
| billybo |
How common are continous shuffle machines in Las Vegas? A rough percentage estimate would be appreciated. I don't care about the auto shufflers, but if the majority of BJ tables in Vegas use CSMs then I'm not even going to bother spending my money there.
Thanks. |
2003-05-04 00:06:30 |
| dd deluxe |
crackerjacky: thanks for answering about that bjblitz biz. lacking farflung casino experience myself, can only say for sure that Pearl River Resort in MS (a Choctaw operation) has VERY liberal bj rules: you can double down on your mother's big toe if you want, dealer stands on soft 17, the 10-dollar tables are all pitch games, and if you play for 2 hours a meal is almost always on the house. |
2003-05-03 16:31:55 |
| one eye jacks |
smart- was the munkey the dealers hole card with another munkey up? |
2003-05-03 14:10:55 |
| Glenn Hunder |
(removed b/c it was spam) |
2003-05-03 13:19:53 |
| I AM SMART |
one time a seen a munkey |
2003-05-03 01:31:17 |
| Midnite |
Scott-Phil is right. It is the correct play. What book did you read that said it was wrong to DD with 11 vs 10 ? (JP?) |
2003-05-02 12:45:26 |
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