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| Mr. Ed |
Excellent game! I enjoy playing very much. A few suggestions for the next version:
1. Include late surrender
2. Dealer should check hole card for blackjack
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2003-06-18 11:28:22 |
| BughouseMASTER |
(someone care answering my entire post please)
That's true, sld007, but if former moron is playing single deck, basic strategy says to DOUBLE on an A & 8 against a dealer's 6. But only if you're playing Single Deck... Talking about Vegas, I just got back from there, lost about $800 maybe, really sucked. It seemed like everytime the dealer had a busting hand, like 15 or 16, he'd draw a lowbie to make it a pat 19-21 - very tough to beat!!! Even when he'd show a 6 showing, he'd have a face in the hole and hit a 5... very frustrating... it was my first time, what do I expect I guess eh? My question however, was, where is the ADVANTAGE in playing Double Deck because where I was playing, Riviera, the DoubleDeck's were dealt to the players face DOWN(!!!) so how in the world are we supposed to count cards using ANY system?! So I just didn't play at doubledeck's anymore and still got my ass smashed whereever I went, and yes, I play with perfect basic strategy with multiple deck and am by no means a newbie player... just had terrible luck, that's all... I even had a +9 count using the HiLo system and increased my bet 10x and got dealt a 10 + 6, lost! Anyway, are there any casino's that deal DOUBLEDECK face UP so we can take advantage of that? If not, how in the world does doubledeck INCREASE our chances of winning as opposed to multi-deck? |
2003-06-18 11:17:28 |
| sld007 |
Sorry guys. You can't go broke making profits. 19 is a winner. Why fuck with that? Plus, it's not like the old days where they ACTUALLY penetrate into the single deck. The fact of the matter is that with auto shufflers and poor penetration, you may as well be playing multideck. |
2003-06-18 07:53:38 |
| Hunter |
As for doubling down on an A-8 versus a 6? Ive run simulations and it shows that that is the best play (double down) for both single deck and six deck for the dealer hitting soft 17's. But it is a close play, and I am not surprised that some tables suggest standing on an A-8. |
2003-06-17 19:42:24 |
| Kevco |
I like to sit at first base if the player's cards are delt face up. I can count the cards on the table and make my play. Then sit back and count the remainder of the cards. |
2003-06-17 17:29:36 |
| BuGhOu§eMASTER |
That's true, sld007, but if former moron is playing single deck, basic strategy says to DOUBLE on an A & 8 against a dealer's 6. But only if you're playing Single Deck...
Talking about Vegas, I just got back from there, lost about $800 maybe, really sucked. It seemed like everytime the dealer had a busting hand, like 15 or 16, he'd draw a lowbie to make it a pat 19-21 - very tough to beat!!! Even when he'd show a 6 showing, he'd have a face in the hole and hit a 5... very frustrating... it was my first time, what do I expect I guess eh?
My question however, was, where is the ADVANTAGE in playing Double Deck because where I was playing, Riviera, the DoubleDeck's were dealt to the players face DOWN(!!!) so how in the world are we supposed to count cards using ANY system?! So I just didn't play at doubledeck's anymore and still got my ass smashed whereever I went, and yes, I play with perfect basic strategy with multiple deck and am by no means a newbie player... just had terrible luck, that's all... I even had a +9 count using the HiLo system and increased my bet 10x and got dealt a 10 + 6, lost! Anyway, are there any casino's that deal DOUBLEDECK face UP so we can take advantage of that? If not, how in the world does doubledeck INCREASE our chances of winning as opposed to multi-deck? |
2003-06-17 12:21:26 |
| sld007 |
former moron - I really don't think there is a best spot; however, there are two other schools of thought that go like this. One, you could sit at first and that way no one screws with the cards that are coming out and you can "coach" the morons later, or, two, you sit at third, coach the morons out of the gate and at least don't take the dealer's bust card or do something stupid later. BUT, I really think it doesn't matter. I know it sucks, but thems the breaks. As far as having an A8, you've got nineteen, a winner,- why take a chance of messin that up? Same reason why you don't split tens. |
2003-06-17 10:35:55 |
| former moron |
If I am forced to sit at a table of morons, where is the best spot? 1st, middle or last? does it matter?
going to vegas in 4 months, hitting a boat in florida before then. one more question for the pros out there,
A and 8 against a dealer's 6, why not double? |
2003-06-17 09:57:43 |
| biggjc |
I have been on a loosing streak for last 6-12 months. I play good basic strategy-but have been stuck in a loosing rut. any suggestions for getting my mojo back? |
2003-06-17 08:30:51 |
| sld007 |
I'll be at the Horseshoe in Shreveport the weekend of July 12, so anybody out there that wants to get together let me know. |
2003-06-15 12:13:33 |
| sld007 |
Desert Dog - Of course, you can get back in the shoe later on, or you can start playing two hands. A litle riskier, but I have "turned around" a shoe or two that way. |
2003-06-15 12:12:28 |
| Michigan Dave |
pshea- I understand one has to compare flat vs. progression betting with a l at the end of each but another variable is a persons exit strategy. I have left the table at the upper end of my progression without losing that last hand. Knowing when to get out must be a part of any game plan. |
2003-06-15 06:11:49 |
| pshea |
Sage, I'm up 5.00 with a wwl, 15 + 15 = 30 - 25 = 5, be up 15.00 with flat betting of 15.00
And I'm up 80.00 with a wwwwwl:
15 + 15 + 25 + 25 + 35 - 35 = 80.00, I'd be up 60.00 with flat betting of 15.00.
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2003-06-14 19:25:28 |
| Desert Dog |
sld007 -- you're right, basic strategy alone is still a lot more control than a tumbling pair of dice. That four loss quit point seems very cautious though. I might as well tell the parking valets to keep my car right out front with the engine running. |
2003-06-14 11:34:19 |
| deer dog deluxe |
Folks: several pages back, there was some discussion of a hit or stand crew meetup for some bj. I'm game: Tunica and Shreveport are both within easy striking distance for me. I _think_ the games are somewhat looser at "my" casino in Philadelphia MS than in Tunica, if you'd like to see the _real_ deep south! Would also be willing to travel somewhat farther afield, if that's where concensus lies: LV, Foxwoods, Bermuda... |
2003-06-14 07:59:59 |
| sld007 |
desert dog - If you've ever read any of my posts, you know that I meant control in the sense of basic strategy, a modified Dahl type progression with a 4 loss quit point and money management. I agree with every thing you said, in fact, it sounds like me second verse! |
2003-06-13 21:35:09 |
| Desert Dog |
sld007 -- by "control" do you mean counting cards or just smart basic strategy? If I ever find a 95-year old dealer with tremors, I might be able to keep count. If you're not counting, the best rule is stick to Basic Strategy, with a few judgement calls in the gray areas (examples: I might stand on 16 vs dealer's ten because I see a lot of small cards out on the table, or I won't double on 11 vs dealer's ten because I see many high cards out on the table); also, use a conservative betting progression. Just as important -- find a table with reasonably sane, competent, good-natured players that you can joke around with for the time that you're there. If you're surrounded by plant life in human clothes, move to another table. You're there for entertainment. Gambling is not a way to make money. |
2003-06-13 20:07:25 |
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