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| dd d |
crackerjacky: well, there ya go: i'm talented. but what are these BJBLITZ things i apparently walked right past. (how'd i miss them? it's a miniscule little pit...) |
2003-04-30 07:14:29 |
| crackerjacky |
Were your winnings a "fluke" (smile). No, don't think so, so long as you play good strategy & get OUT, fast if you win $200. Knowing when to fold 'em requires "talent". I personally hate the video tables with real dealers--can't see what is going on with the other players if you are sitting on first base. |
2003-04-30 07:05:27 |
| dd d |
crkjky: i remember no such tables, sorry! (played a couple hours one night and then a couple more the next morning). have YOU played them? what's the deal? and what's your take on playing with the "real live dealers" in the rule-bound game? were my winnings a fluke? |
2003-04-30 04:26:57 |
| crackerjacky |
I understand the "real, live dealers" at Cherokee as I have been there more than once (lol). And, you are right, the "dealer chatter" is very stagy and annoying. I wanted your opine on the 3 tables adjacent to the "live" dealer tables. In addition to the "live" play at Cherokee, are 3 (and only 3!) digital machines called "BJ BLITZ". They are same size as dealor tables. Was hoping you had played them but if you were there for only 5 hours, you may have missed them. |
2003-04-30 02:39:34 |
| dd deluxe |
crkjky: in general i love digital technology, and am not averse to machine play per se. but it's still weird. you "cut" the cards by tapping the table to which the "dealer" reacts by hitting a big button on a power-strip sized relay. the dealer sends each player one "card" -- each of which appears in sequence around the table, then deals another "card." the dealer's hand appears in miniature in the corner of everybody's screen with a handy total printed up along side it. the dealer "hits" each player's hand in turn by pushing buttons, and as each card appears on your screen, the computer totals the hand for you. when you bust there's a bit of visual hoopla (not as classy as hitorstand's), ditto when you get bj. the dealers i had (4 or 5 over the course of approximately 5 hours of play) are very attuned to the cards, who's got what, even tho it happens VERY fast. they also compensate for having not too much to do with their hands by doing a lot of souped-up chatter. very stagy. although there are ostensibly 6 "decks" in "play," if you were a card counter (which i am not yet), the set-up MIGHT be defeating. each person's screen is inset slightly, so i had to crane my head to get a sense of what was coming down at the other end of the table. if the rules weren't so much like the ones poor old mikko has encountered in Finland, you could get used to this. i'd rather play bj than not, is the truth. but the rules suck. and the pace can be relentless: since there are no cards to muck with, there are no breaks for shuffling, new decks, washing of cards, etc. while all that can make me antsy, i know it's good for me. this might not answer your question. if not, try again. |
2003-04-29 20:54:08 |
| crackerjacky |
Deary Dog Deluxe. Would like your opinion re Harrah's Cherokee, NC. "BJ Blitz". How did you do with those machines & what do you think of them? |
2003-04-29 17:15:51 |
| deer dog deluxe |
My recent road trip included a stop in North Carolina, a state with repressive attitudes about games of "chance." The bj tables are actually video consoles, with a screen for each player and the real live dealer who handles actual chips in the conventional way. Dealer had to hit a soft 17, but the only double downs allowed were on 10s and 11s, no 9s, and no soft totals against bust cards. Miraculously (and I mean this) I won a couple hundred bucks there (Harrah's, Cherokee NC), but despite that (and how beautiful the casino/hotel are), I won't be stopping there again. |
2003-04-29 16:19:36 |
| sld007 |
mikko - I have two words for you-"exit visa". Midnite is right, those rules are atrocious for the player. |
2003-04-29 13:34:27 |
| Midnite |
mikko- You english is fine, better than my Finnish. With rules like that, You Can Not Win. |
2003-04-29 13:23:33 |
| mikko |
I´m envying u.. Here in finland we have only few casinos and they are all owned by the government, that means that all the money they make goes directly to charity, like an local AA-club and so on.. I think that is all right..but rules are different,than many other countries. Dealer wins if the he tied with the player(like 17 vs 17 or so) U can´t double with 8 or less..if u got two cards valued of 10 u can split them(like king and queen, ten and jack) believe it or not many players do so. This is a situation here..apologies for my bad english hopefully u can manage to understand my points anyway. |
2003-04-29 08:49:00 |
| sld007 |
hawkeye - You sound just like me. I bring about 4-5000 when I play for 4 days. I play 25 table, which gives me the ability to jump to a 50 progression if I am hot, or stay at a 25 progression if I am not. At the 25 progression, you really need a lot of bad shoes to get wiped out. I usually buy in for 500 and then I stay until I double it or lose it. Then I go. If I lose 4 hands in a row, I wait until the next shoe, or just leave the table. One thing I just tried in Miami was if I lose 4 hands in a row, I start playing two hands at 25 each. Now some places make you play 2 hands at double the minimum (not this place though). You would not BELIEVE the difference another hand in the mix made. I can honestly say that I saw the greatest fluctuation in profits (to the good frotunately) when I played two hands. Usually I got at least one good one, but of course you can get really wiped out if the dealer gets a BJ or does not bust when you have two stiffs, bnut all in all I made more $$$ that way than with one hand. Just a thought. |
2003-04-29 08:38:45 |
| Midnite |
hawkeye- I would be glad to try and help, but need more info. Contact me at : midnitegambler@cox.net |
2003-04-29 05:31:13 |
| hawkeye |
Just wanted to hear some feedback on what perhaps would be a buy in for the green chip tables. Going back out to vegas in June, but usually only sit at five $ tables, with level 5 progressive betting. See very few shots at a 25 bet, with exceptions to splits/dbl downs. I will be there 4 days and bankrool will be 4k, better half is bringing her own bankroll. I'm a basic strategy player, with basic key card counting skills. I would guess 500/750 buy in is the norm. Would be interested in hearing back from sld007, and midnite. Whats the approach? |
2003-04-28 23:15:06 |
| Midnite |
007-Good job. Always nice to win. A-6 & A-7, trips up a lot of players. Soft hands and when to split and double, are the undoing of most players, that "think" they know basic strategy. It makes no difference where you play, you will see the same thing. |
2003-04-28 21:59:24 |
| sld007 |
Just got back from Coral Gables where I sailed from Miaimi on the Casino Princess Thu Fri and Sat nights. Out of 20 BJ tables only 2 were $25 min, rest all 5-10. Very friendly dealers, buffet, TVs in casino so I could watch my beloved Mavericks kick Trailblazer butt. Won $600 Thu, Lost $450 Fri and won $900 Sat. Not crowded, ship was clean, some rough types on board, but all in all a very pleasant experience. Players were experienced and played well EXCEPT for soft 17s (they never hit or doubled) and 12 versus dealer 2 or 3 (they never hit). |
2003-04-28 15:09:29 |
| Midnite |
SAGE, save your money. The only one making money with Pattersons Target 21 method is .....Patterson, by selling it for $295. |
2003-04-28 13:08:19 |
| sage |
New to BJ
Casino where I play has "King" Continuous Shuffle Machines.
Thus card counting will not work.
Just read the book "Blackjack" by Patterson, Claims he has a program "Target 21" that can spot a player friendly table vs a dealer friendly table. Wants $295 for program. Anyone have any info on the program or on Patterson? Thanks |
2003-04-28 10:19:04 |
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